Pivot of Nasdaq-traded Celularity highlights tensions & risks from Florida stem cell law

Robert Hariri has been a familiar face in the biotech field, including as CEO of Celgene, but one of his newer companies, Celularity, has been in the news lately. He also co-founded a firm called Fountain Life that has recently partnered with Celularity.

I’ve been following these firms for years and was struck by a recent big pivot by Celularity based on the new Florida stem cell law that allows non-FDA-approved cells to be used clinically in that state. The Florida law seems to conflict with aspects of FDA regulations based on federal law so it’s unclear how that will play out.

Hariri also just did an interview on Fox News about stem cells and his firms, which was interesting.

Let’s walk through what’s going on here and what it might signal for our field.

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What is Celularity?

Celularity, which Hariri co-founded with Peter Diamandis, is a publicly-traded biotech (CELU) focused primarily on placental tissue and cell therapy development.

The Celularity placental tissue products seem to be 361 (non-drugs) that can be marketed without clinical trials, INDs, etc.

In contrast, the firm’s investigational placental cell therapies appear to me to probably be biological drugs (351s) requiring extensive engagement with the FDA and premarket approval. Of course, only the FDA decides how to define a product as a drug or not. However, Celularity has gotten a few INDs in the past, which is consistent with placental cells being a biological drug.

Unfortunately, the firm is facing potential Nasdaq delisting due in part to financial issues but potentially could resolve these issues. (As a side note, many other cell therapy biotechs have also been facing struggles lately. For example, BrainStorm Cell Therapeutics was just delisted from Nasdaq.)

As I’ve written before, within the cell therapy area, Celularity’s aim to develop cancer immunotherapies looks particularly interesting to me.

Placental cells for orthopedic conditions, wound care, and pain management?

However, I’m less bullish about the idea of using placental cells more broadly as therapies. Again, as allogeneic cell therapies they appear to most likely be biological drugs. In addition, the specific potential uses under the Florida law for orthopedic conditions, wound care, and pain management would seem to be non-homologous, which also can trigger a drug classification.

More broadly, as I said the Florida law seems to conflict with federal law and FDA regulations. Since federal law has supremacy, it might seem at first that the stem cell law in Florida (and other states with similar laws challenging the FDA) are not going to be valid for long, but it might not be that simple.

Before we dig into that some more, what about Fountain Life?

What is Fountain Life?

Hariri, Diamandis, and William Kapp more recently founded Fountain Life, a wellness firm. Life coach Tony Robbins is a partner.

As indicated in the interview on Fox, Fountain Life focuses in part on doing regular scans of the body to look for early signs of disease, like cancer.

For a few years, as I’ve written here on The Niche, I couldn’t clarify whether Fountain Life offered unproven stem cell procedures. For a time perhaps they didn’t.

Now the Fountain Life clinic websites market stem cells in Florida.

You can find the video of the Hariri interview here on Brian Kilmeade’s show One Nation. Try to start watching about the 33:30 mark, which is when Hariri comes on the show. The interview touched on several key recent developments in stem cell oversight. It emphasized longevity as a target for stem cells.

Kilmeade also seemed upbeat about regularly screening, perhaps meaning regular whole-body scans, which I’m skeptical about at this point.

The new Florida stem cell law came up too.

The big pivot for Celularity via new opportunities in Florida

As you can imagine, with the new Florida law, there are possible opportunities for many firms to sell non-FDA-approved cells there. More specifically, there’s also potential for some synergy between Fountain Life and Celularity.

Celularity might also be hoping to supply cellular products to other Florida clinic firms wanting to do stem cell procedures based on the new law too. The firm’s statements on the new law suggest they want to be a stem cell supplier. For example, Hariri is quoted:

“Celularity is fully prepared to supply the ethically sourced stem cells which enable these treatments, and we look forward to working with Florida physicians to make these innovative therapies available to patients.”

As many of you know, I’m no fan of the idea of clinics selling unproven cells. I believe that solid clinical trial data are needed for such potential applications. Some clinics use autologous cells from their customers, but an increasing number are first buying off-the-shelf allogeneic cells from supplier firms, which they then sell to customers.

Over the past decade, the actual Florida stem cell clinics injecting patients generally haven’t had a good reputation for safety and positive outcomes. Hopefully Celularity will be appropriately careful about which clinics or doctors it sells its placental cells to in Florida.

I should note, despite the apparent pivot by Celularity to apparently market as-yet unproven and non-FDA-approved placental cells in Florida, I hope that the firm will continue pursuing some of its IND-based work too.

Reasons why placental and other perinatal cells should remain defined as drugs

Why does it matter if the FDA regulates perinatal cells as drugs? Let’s go through it.

In my view, the FDA and its CBER branch should not allow use of such cells without approval, even in states that have laws saying that’s okay in their view. There are common sense reasons for this view.

First, there are just aren’t compelling data that placental or umbilical cord cells are effective for conditions such as for orthopedic issues.

Also, such perinatal cells pose real risks including especially from contamination during the birthing process or in subsequent processing.  We saw that with Liveyon sending dozens of people to the hospital and some to the ICU.

The paradox here is that careful sterilization of primary perinatal cells might kill them and make them even less likely to be helpful. If you first grow the cells in a lab before packaging them for clinical use, you might be more confident of sterility (e.g., you can carefully test them for pathogens), but that lab growth would seem to make them even more likely to be classified as a a drug based on the U.S. vs. Regenerative Sciences case that the FDA won. Growing cells in a lab also risks new mutations arising in them.

The FDA and Florida law on stem cells

With all of this in mind, what about the FDA and federal law?

Say Celularity or some other supplier firm sells placental cells to a clinic doctor in Florida and that doctor then, under that state’s law, uses the product to try to treat orthopedic conditions. At the federal level, would that be use of an unapproved drug? Would the FDA do anything or see it as permissible?

It’s relevant here that the FDA specifically has been very active on marketing of unapproved perinatal products in the last 5-6 years including placental cells, issuing quite a few warnings. The agency has consistently said perinatal cells are drugs.

Still, we’re not in a typical regulatory environment anymore. Today’s FDA may opt to exercise enforcement discretion and so do nothing in some cases or places like Florida. It might even align some of its views and actions with state laws like Florida’s. It’s an odd situation. Firms seeking to sell or use non-FDA-approved stem cells or other cell therapies in Florida may be betting on big changes in oversight at the agency.

Looking ahead

It’s not just Florida. A bunch of red states now have stem cell or related laws that seek to weaken the FDA. So, moving forward, how will the agency handle all these state versus federal stem cell regulations, laws, and oversight? It’s hard to predict.

With Vinay Prasad now out as CBER Director, there’s even more uncertainty. I feel like some weakening of FDA oversight of cell therapies is likely though. Note by way of an update, Prasad is now apparently back as CBER directly. Things are chaotic at the FDA these days.

It’s going to be interesting to see what happens in Florida based on the law there and the possible tension with the FDA’s past policies and oversight activity based on federal law. Activities in other states like Utah, Nevada, and so forth that have laws okaying non-FDA-approved cell or other biological therapies could spark agency activity too. Or things might remain very quiet.

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16 thoughts on “Pivot of Nasdaq-traded Celularity highlights tensions & risks from Florida stem cell law”

  1. Paul, I just wanted “John” to have the information he would need to understand what a real “stem cell”, or more correctly, a “stem cell-derived” clinical trial is. I was being easy on him, because he’s clearly not a scientist. Vertex, BlueRock, Neurona are the companies he wants to learn about. Opinions about science are meaningless to me – I’m probably my own work’s strongest critic – we only need to look at the data, not the claims. If he is an accountant or a business owner, I doubt that he would be satisfied with an opinion about how much money is being spent.

  2. Let’s agree to disagree. In my opinion it’s exciting to see the field progressing. So I’m thankful for those safely pushing the boundaries to benefit patients.
    Thanks again Professor for your cordial replies.

  3. Placenta-derived stem cells, particularly mesenchymal stem cells (MSCs), have shown promise in clinical trials for various conditions due to their immunomodulatory, anti-inflammatory, and regenerative properties. Below is a summary of notable successful clinical trials worldwide, based on available data up to 2025, focusing on placenta stem cell applications. These trials are primarily Phase I or II, as the field is still developing, with larger trials needed to confirm efficacy.

    Key Successful Placenta Stem Cell Clinical Trials

    • Secondary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis (MS) – Iran

    • Trial Details: A Phase I open-label clinical trial (NCT06360861) conducted by Tehran University of Medical Sciences tested placenta-derived MSCs in five patients with secondary progressive MS. The trial assessed safety and preliminary efficacy over six months.

    • Outcomes: No severe adverse events were reported, with only mild headaches in two patients, resolved with acetaminophen. Patients showed reduced Expanded Disability Status Scale (EDSS) scores, indicating less disability, improved cognitive and psychological function, and reduced fatigue. Functional MRI scans indicated stronger brain connections, and blood tests showed lower inflammatory markers and B-cell counts, with increased anti-inflammatory IL-10 levels.

    • Significance: Suggests neuroprotective potential of placenta MSCs, though larger Phase II trials are needed.

    • Critical Limb Ischemia (CLI) – Iran

    • Trial Details: A Phase I dose-escalation study (IRCT20210221050446N1) evaluated placenta-derived MSCs in nine CLI patients, administered intramuscularly at doses of 20×10⁶ or 60×10⁶ cells, given twice two months apart.

    • Outcomes: The treatment was well-tolerated with no significant adverse events. Significant reductions in inflammatory cytokines (IL-1, IFN-γ) were observed, alongside improvements in rest pain, ulcer healing, and maximum walking distance. Minor amputations replaced major ones in some cases, though angiography did not show significant new vessel formation.

    • Significance: Demonstrates safety and potential to improve physical performance and reduce inflammation in CLI.

    • COVID-19-Related Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) – Iran

    • Trial Details: A Phase I non-blinded trial (IRCT20200621047859N4) assessed the safety of intravenous placenta-derived MSCs (1×10⁶ cells/kg) in 10 ICU patients with COVID-19-induced ARDS, compared to 10 controls receiving standard care.

    • Outcomes: No adverse events were linked to MSC administration. While clinical parameters like hospitalization length and oxygen saturation showed no significant differences, the treatment was deemed safe and feasible.

    • Significance: Supports the safety of placenta MSCs for ARDS, with further studies needed to assess efficacy at higher doses or repeated administrations.

    • Spina Bifida (In Utero Treatment) – USA

    • Trial Details: The CuRe trial at UC Davis Health, led by Diana Farmer, is testing placenta-derived MSCs applied topically during in utero surgery for spina bifida to enhance spinal cord repair. As of 2025, 16 of 35 patients have been treated.

    • Outcomes: No unexpected adverse events have been reported from the stem cell patch. The trial is ongoing, with full results pending as motor function outcomes require evaluation when children reach walking age (around two years). Preclinical work in English bulldogs, a natural model for spina bifida, showed promise.

    • Significance: Represents a pioneering approach to congenital disorders, combining fetal surgery and stem cell therapy, with potential to improve mobility and reduce complications.

    • Rheumatoid Arthritis – Various Studies

    • Trial Details: A 2019 study highlighted the use of placenta-derived MSCs to reduce rheumatoid arthritis symptoms by modulating T-cell responses and inflammation.

    • Outcomes: MSC transfusions showed potential in controlling inflammation and T-cell activity, suggesting utility for autoimmune disorders like rheumatoid arthritis.

    • Significance: Indicates broader applicability of placenta MSCs for inflammatory and autoimmune conditions.

    • Type 2 Diabetes – China

    • Trial Details: Studies, including one in China, used placenta-derived MSCs to treat type 2 diabetes, focusing on improving glycemic control.

    • Outcomes: Improved insulin sensitivity and reduced diabetes symptoms were observed, suggesting therapeutic potential.

    • Significance: Highlights placenta MSCs as a candidate for metabolic disorders.

    • Brain Injuries – Italy/UK

    • Trial Details: A 2018 meta-study reviewed trials using placenta-derived cells for acute brain injuries (ischemic, hemorrhagic, or traumatic).

    • Outcomes: Transplanted groups showed improved sensorimotor function within a week, with stem cells migrating to damaged brain areas, reducing lesions, and promoting neurogenesis and reduced inflammation.

    • Significance: Suggests placenta MSCs could aid recovery from acute brain injuries.

    • FDA-Approved Trials – USA

    • Trial Details: The establishment of placental stem cell biobanks has led to FDA approval for clinical trials targeting Crohn’s disease, pulmonary sarcoidosis, and ischemic stroke.

    • Outcomes: Specific outcomes are not detailed in the provided data, but FDA approval indicates promising preclinical results and safety profiles.

    • Significance: Marks a step toward clinical translation for placenta-derived stem cells in diverse conditions.

    Broader Context and Insights

    • Advantages of Placenta-Derived Stem Cells: These cells are attractive due to their low immunogenicity, high proliferation capacity, and ease of harvest compared to bone marrow or other sources. The placenta’s young age and low infection rate further enhance its appeal for regenerative medicine.

    • Global Efforts: The International Placenta Stem Cell Society (IPLASS), founded in 2009, fosters global collaboration, with trials spanning Iran, USA, China, Israel, and Europe.

    • Limitations: Most trials are early-phase (I or II), focusing on safety and feasibility. Efficacy data are preliminary, and larger, controlled trials are needed. Challenges include standardizing cell doses, delivery methods, and long-term outcomes.

    Conclusion

    Placenta-derived stem cell trials have shown success in establishing safety and preliminary efficacy for conditions like MS, CLI, ARDS, spina bifida, rheumatoid arthritis, type 2 diabetes, and brain injuries. These trials, primarily in Phase I, demonstrate the potential of placenta MSCs due to their regenerative and immunomodulatory properties. However, larger, controlled studies are essential to validate these findings and establish clinical standards.

    1. @John,
      While I’m not quite a skeptical as Jeanne about possible placental cell applications, your long list of trials seem mostly far away (generally many years probably) from being proven safe and effective (or not). Most biological product trials also ultimately fail.

      It’s really too soon to know which, if any, conditions might be improved by placental MSCs or other placental cells.

      Also, Jeanne rightly pointed out the logical, focused therapies being developed using pluripotent stem cells. For example, a condition has an issue with certain neurons, we make those exact neurons to treat it. An eye cell problem? We make the exact eye cells that are involved.

      By contrast, with placental and other MSCs, and I’ve said this before, it’s like a nifty product in search of an application. People try them for just about anything even without a hypothesis more specific than the cells might have general anti-inflammatory properties. To me that doesn’t seem efficient.

      Overall, for all these kinds of reasons, firms in Florida should not be marketing placental or other MSCs (or any unproven cells) at clinics under the state’s law. It’s risky and has little chance of benefit.

      As I’ve also said before, more access to unproven cells is generally not a good thing. Terminally ill patients can sometimes try such things via the FDA’s expanded access program and working with a sponsor, but the Florida law doesn’t even require a serious illness.

  4. John-
    You don’t seem to understand what a real cell therapy is. Let me explain.

    Right now there are FDA-approved clinical trials showing success in treating macular degeneration, type 1 diabetes, epilepsy, and Parkinson’s disease.

    They all use pluripotent stem cells to make the specific cell type that can ameliorate the disease- retinal pigment cells, pancreatic islet cells, inhibitory neurons, dopamine neurons.

    They do not use stem cells for anything but to make the cell type that can treat the disease. Each of these trials needs to prove that the cells used are safe and effective in order to be approved by the FDA.

    Cells in placentas can do none of this. Whenever they’ve been tested in a clinical trial, they’ve failed. Science doesn’t lie. There is no scientific basis for using these cells. The only basis for using cells like placental cells to treat people is to make money by taking advantage of desperate people who are easily fooled.

    It’s important to me that people are not paying for worthless therapies. So let me know if you want to know more.

  5. No. I follow the stem cell industry and always prefer that company representatives speak to the specifics of their business.

  6. I don’t have the authority to speak on behalf of Celularity or Fountain Life so perhaps it’s time for you to sit down with Dr. Hariri to get the information first hand so your readers will get the facts.
    I’m sure he would be happy to know the correct information is being reported.

    Also, just because there have been bad actors in the past doesn’t mean stem cell therapy should stop moving forward.
    Hats off to these companies and Florida for leading the way.

  7. With all due respect Professor, you took your readers on a ride and ended up in the same place you left, without many answers.

    The article is full of assumptions about Celularity and Fountain Life as you portray these companies and stem cell therapy in a negative light. If you are including specific companies in your articles, you should be reporting the facts not making assumptions about their products or services. That can get you into trouble.

    It was a disappointing read for me as I am a proponent of stem cell innovation. I believe in finding ways to advance the field forward in a safe manner, so we don’t miss the next breakthrough.
    Thank God for innovators like Dr. Hariri, willing to take risks to move the field ahead to make life better patients in need of life saving therapies. Like they say, every new breakthrough is called crazy the day before it’s proven.

    1. @John, In terms of what you call assumptions, feel free to clarify more specifically what you know about these firms and their apparent plans, products, etc. in Florida. For example, are you thinking they will not sell placental cells in Florida?

      I quoted Celularity’s own statement.I looked at that its website and that Fountain Life. It all seems fairly clear.

      I’m a proponent of stem cell innovation too but at some point one needs concrete data to show efficacy and safety.

      We’re at an exciting point in the field where quite a few cell therapy products in development look very promising based on trials. I haven’t seen that so far for placental cells used as a cell therapy for orthopedic conditions and the other stuff now allowed in Florida. That could change but again one needs data to back stuff up before marketing it.

      A trial right here at UC Davis using placental cells for spina bifida is exciting. Other trials using pluripotent cells are even further along for diabetes. There’s hope for Parkinson’s and vision loss, epilepsy, and more.

      Stem cell clinics in Florida have been documented to have hurt quite a few people over the years. That’s a fact too that makes sells unproven cells to clinics in that marketplace riskier.

  8. Placenta-derived MSCs injected intramuscularly. Two phase III trials were marginally successful

    https://pluri-biotech.com/clinical-pipeline/

    Pluri completed a global Phase III study of PLX-PAD to treat muscle recovery following surgery for hip fracture. The Hipgen program received € 7.4 million grant from the EU Horizon 2020 program to support Phase III trial
    Top results:
    * A significant increase in Hip Abduction Strength (HAS) in the injured and uninjured leg compared to placebo up to week 52
    * Patients treated with PLX-PAD were able to walk 296 meters versus 266 meters in placebo during 6-min walking test at week 52
    * PLX-PAD cell therapy was safe and well tolerated

    Pluri conducted a global Phase III study of PLX-PAD to treat Critical Limb Ischemia (CLI). This program (named PACE) received € 7.6 million grant from the EU Horizon 2020 program to support Phase III trial.
    Top results:
    The study was terminated following interim review, but post-analysis found statistically significant reduction in events of amputation and death in non diabetic or well-controlled patients at 12 months.

  9. The fact that these charlatans are taking advantage of the FDA’s lack of scientific leadership tells me that we will have a hard time protecting people from their exploitation. These guys think that money is everyone’s main objective, because it is theirs, and probably think we’re suckers because we aren’t cashing in on our reputations. I don’t understand why ignorance and belief are more important than facts, but then I’m a scientist, and I can’t ignore those pesky facts.

    1. Jeanne, Any predictions on what the FDA/CBER will do in states like Florida that have legalized non-FDA-approved “stem cells” & other related biological drugs? For years CBER has warned and sent untitled letters to loads of firms marketing umbilical cord and placental cells. Will they rather abruptly look the other way moving forward?

  10. You can keep saying placenta-derived stem cells are useless for orthopedics or trauma your whole life, because you pretend not to see the evidence!

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